Sometimes I have fun ideas

[jedi_of_urth]

So last night I finally sat down and watched the last couple episodes of the Sarah Jane Adventures, and besides making me want to go back to writing my fic idea for someone erasing Rose from the Doctor's past I now have another idea, but not sure how to fic it.

So what if "originally" there was a Rose Tyler in Pete's World, only the...black robed guy whose name/race I forgot (from that universe) was working off the idea that "Rose Tyler needs to be removed from history because she saves the world" and so as far as Alt-Pete and Alt-Jackie's memories went they didn't have any children. However somehow he didn't know that the Rose Tyler who was so good at saving the world was really our Rose. So out in the white space there is a Rose Tyler, and...I don't know.

But because every idea of mine must ultimately lead to reunion, somehow that Rose being restored causes our Rose to be able to come back somehow. and she can leave that Rose defending the Earth.

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[shaela]

But because every idea of mine must ultimately lead to reunion, somehow that Rose being restored causes our Rose to be able to come back somehow.

Or maybe it forces our Rose to come back, because the universe isn’t big enough for two Rose Tylers. *ignores the fact that Mickey and Rickey seemed to get on well enough*

But honestly—when I saw that place where Sarah Jane was trapped, my first thought was the Void. Forget reunion—when it comes to me and Doctor Who, all roads lead to Rose.

Still, I’m really enjoying this series. (And it boggles my mind that Torchwood is considered the “mature” spin-off.)

[jedi_of_urth]

when I saw that place where Sarah Jane was trapped, my first thought was the Void.

I thought of that too, and I didn't figure I was the only one. I mean, they keep ripping holes in reality or showing spaces of not quite reality and expect us *not* to connect it to the Void. Of course I'm still 90% convinced that the place Jack goes when he "dies" is the Void and the "something coming for him in the darkness" in Bad-Wolf-Rose reaching out to him (the anchor she left in this reality) trying to come back.

Forget reunion—when it comes to me and Doctor Who, all roads lead to Rose.

Don't I know it, in the last SJA story they were talking about the lost children so far from home and I just...I mean Rose connections. And well, Rose related material makes me want it to lead to her coming back and that means reunion.

Still, I’m really enjoying this series. (And it boggles my mind that Torchwood is considered the “mature” spin-off.)

The SJA is so much better than Torchwood, more like Earth-bound Doctor Who, missing some of the darker undertones (or at least you have to look a lot harder than on DW recently). TW is senselessly dark and meaningless, titillation does not a mature show make.

[shaela]

Of course I’m still 90% convinced that the place Jack goes when he “dies” is the Void and the “something coming for him in the darkness” is Bad-Wolf-Rose reaching out to him (the anchor she left in this reality) trying to come back.

Oh, good. It’s not just me, then. I’ve been 99.9% sure since “Utopia” that Jack’s fact-hood (not just his immortality) is going to be important to the story. I like the way you put it—he’s “the anchor she left in this reality.”

And well, Rose related material makes me want it to lead to her coming back and that means reunion.

No argument from me. But I keep hearing the same kinds of echoes when I try to watch the original series, which is just…

TW is senselessly dark and meaningless, titillation does not a mature show make.

Yes, exactly. When I hear “mature,” I think “serious,” not “pornographic.” The scenes in the nursing home in “Eye of the Gorgon.” Or the scene in “Warriors of the Kudlak” where Sarah Jane sees the Earth from orbit.

[jedi_of_urth]

I’ve been 99.9% sure since “Utopia” that Jack’s fact-hood (not just his immortality) is going to be important to the story.

Oh yeah, something like that has got to be important somehow (and not Face of Boe route). I really expected it to come up in the finale, but I expected a lot of things to come into play in the finale that got brushed aside in favor of Martha's Magical World Tour for Tinkerbelle. I know even New WHo doesn't exactly follow the Buffy/Farscape/Heroes model of things building and building throughout the season, and bits of things laid in to all explode in the finale, but LotTL practically didn't deal with *any* of the things that had been set up by the season, even the directly related episodes, leading up to it.

And I know I'm guilty of trying to connect everything to Rose, but not addressing Jack status, and that status being completely tied in with Rose, makes it feel like it's important to the Rose story.

When I hear “mature,” I think “serious,” not “pornographic.” The scenes in the nursing home in “Eye of the Gorgon.” Or the scene in “Warriors of the Kudlak” where Sarah Jane sees the Earth from orbit.

On one hand I kind of agree with you that the SJA is in many ways more "mature" for just the small moments it has like that. But the SJA isn't what I would call "adult" either, but neither is TW.

What I think Torchwood means to be (or at least at one point meant to be) is a morally grey world where the good guys are mostly anti-heroes and they make poor choices, and the villains have complex motivations. But they really failed to make it that (as much as Everything Changes has it's problems, I think it did stick to that game plan fairly well).

The SJA I think operates in a world where there is clearly good and bad, though sometimes people get caught in the middle, most characters seem to fall into the ends of the spectrum, or at least the decisions are clearly either right or wrong.

You know I'm not sure what my point was exactly, but I do think the SJA is written much more maturely even if it's less adult. Also I really hope Torchwood is better in season 2, I think they're going to have a little more freedom than they did before, though I'm not sure so maybe they'll be able to make it work.