wolly headed thoughts
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jedi_of_urthYeah I know I’ve forgotten to answer my trick or treaters but I do mean to, some scattered treats maybe... For now:
TVD: 4x04 reaction post
Everyone wave at Elijah for the few seconds of screen time he gets. Hi Elijah, for some reason the people in Mystic Falls still refuse to call you and really that gets more ridiculous every week. I’m sorry but Klaus should have been calling him for help, Rebekah should have been calling him to try and connect with family (or at least mention the reason I consider obvious why she wouldn’t), and above all Elena ought to be calling him when she can’t use any of the others as guides (but there’s a lot of people we ought to see Elena playing off of that we’re not getting).
(Also I suppose Klaus did want Stefan’s help so he couldn’t do what I secretly wanted and egg Stefan on about the healing Elena question by responding “Would you believe I did it for Elijah’s sake? My brother’s quite keen on your girlfriend, just like your brother.”)
But my main joy of the episode was Stefan and Klaus. Or just Klaus in general because Klaus and Rebekah was also good. For that matter, besides the last scene Stefan and Rebekah was good, but in that scene Stefan was bothersome in his attitudes so it kind of went around my good feelings about them earlier in the episode. Basically the Originals remain so awesome they can overcome a lot of my negative Stefan feelings., and hot damn are my Klaus/Stefan feelings on with this episode.
This episode continues me hating this whole let’s make Elena a vamp plot line. While it’s not being *quite* as gross about it as I feared the writers would act (in some ways) I still hate it. There are a few moments that feel genuinely about Elena’s feelings on the subject, independent of which Salvatore she’s more drawn to, but those just make me hurt because I can’t stand to see my baby in that much pain. So as I always kind of knew, this plot is between a rock and a hard place with me, make it about the Triangle and I’ll be angry and want to throw things, deal with what’s happened and make it hurt so I don’t really want to watch it. *However* the few good moments give me a faint hope that by the point we get to the end of the season I’ll look back at the plot and maybe have better thoughts/feelings about it, at least more than DNW which is effectively still my stance.
Anyway, on the subject of the cure plot...I’m of several different minds about it. So far it’s playing out a lot like I expected it to (with the notable exception of it having much more Elijah in my head). While yes Klaus’s motives are gross, I don’t really judge him for it the way I find I do Stefan. Partially because Stefan’s reasons continue to be all about Elena and not about Stefan as a character; being all about the cure for Elena and then his reasons for wanting it being all about being with Elena, show can you one of these days explore what *Stefan* wants? Plus, there’s the ever present lying, and seeing as how I came down hard on Damon in 3x11 for lying to Elena then making out with her I better call attention to the fact that Stefan’s sitting on an even bigger, more personally important secret. I don’t even entirely think he’s in the wrong (Klaus made secrecy a pretty hard and fast rule in this), but this does not a healthy relationship make.
But my wanting out of the vamp-Elena plot (because I think it’s a bad idea and I want better for my girl, plus of course the dramatic possibilities which this ep gave us a nice taste of) makes me do a little happy dance not just because I was right but because of what I was right about. I do want it to be presented as a big deal with some great storylines to it, so again I’m pretty okay with this.
Wild speculation (well, I was right once), the search for the cure leads them to Tatia, somehow preserved all this time. (I actually have a couple more details in mind for this plotline if I was writing it but I would need to go back and watch a couple other eps before I write them down.)
I’m really quite brain foggy tonight and I should be writing for NaNo (but will probably end up finishing my Castle marathon instead, or maybe writing TVD fic if I have any muses in play at all). So I’ll just leave you with an eye role for the show condemning frat boys with roofies after everything Damon’s done including this episode (gods I don’t think I’ll ever want to watch his little talk about Elena going after air headed blondes again).
TVD: 4x04 reaction post
Everyone wave at Elijah for the few seconds of screen time he gets. Hi Elijah, for some reason the people in Mystic Falls still refuse to call you and really that gets more ridiculous every week. I’m sorry but Klaus should have been calling him for help, Rebekah should have been calling him to try and connect with family (or at least mention the reason I consider obvious why she wouldn’t), and above all Elena ought to be calling him when she can’t use any of the others as guides (but there’s a lot of people we ought to see Elena playing off of that we’re not getting).
(Also I suppose Klaus did want Stefan’s help so he couldn’t do what I secretly wanted and egg Stefan on about the healing Elena question by responding “Would you believe I did it for Elijah’s sake? My brother’s quite keen on your girlfriend, just like your brother.”)
But my main joy of the episode was Stefan and Klaus. Or just Klaus in general because Klaus and Rebekah was also good. For that matter, besides the last scene Stefan and Rebekah was good, but in that scene Stefan was bothersome in his attitudes so it kind of went around my good feelings about them earlier in the episode. Basically the Originals remain so awesome they can overcome a lot of my negative Stefan feelings., and hot damn are my Klaus/Stefan feelings on with this episode.
This episode continues me hating this whole let’s make Elena a vamp plot line. While it’s not being *quite* as gross about it as I feared the writers would act (in some ways) I still hate it. There are a few moments that feel genuinely about Elena’s feelings on the subject, independent of which Salvatore she’s more drawn to, but those just make me hurt because I can’t stand to see my baby in that much pain. So as I always kind of knew, this plot is between a rock and a hard place with me, make it about the Triangle and I’ll be angry and want to throw things, deal with what’s happened and make it hurt so I don’t really want to watch it. *However* the few good moments give me a faint hope that by the point we get to the end of the season I’ll look back at the plot and maybe have better thoughts/feelings about it, at least more than DNW which is effectively still my stance.
Anyway, on the subject of the cure plot...I’m of several different minds about it. So far it’s playing out a lot like I expected it to (with the notable exception of it having much more Elijah in my head). While yes Klaus’s motives are gross, I don’t really judge him for it the way I find I do Stefan. Partially because Stefan’s reasons continue to be all about Elena and not about Stefan as a character; being all about the cure for Elena and then his reasons for wanting it being all about being with Elena, show can you one of these days explore what *Stefan* wants? Plus, there’s the ever present lying, and seeing as how I came down hard on Damon in 3x11 for lying to Elena then making out with her I better call attention to the fact that Stefan’s sitting on an even bigger, more personally important secret. I don’t even entirely think he’s in the wrong (Klaus made secrecy a pretty hard and fast rule in this), but this does not a healthy relationship make.
But my wanting out of the vamp-Elena plot (because I think it’s a bad idea and I want better for my girl, plus of course the dramatic possibilities which this ep gave us a nice taste of) makes me do a little happy dance not just because I was right but because of what I was right about. I do want it to be presented as a big deal with some great storylines to it, so again I’m pretty okay with this.
Wild speculation (well, I was right once), the search for the cure leads them to Tatia, somehow preserved all this time. (I actually have a couple more details in mind for this plotline if I was writing it but I would need to go back and watch a couple other eps before I write them down.)
I’m really quite brain foggy tonight and I should be writing for NaNo (but will probably end up finishing my Castle marathon instead, or maybe writing TVD fic if I have any muses in play at all). So I’ll just leave you with an eye role for the show condemning frat boys with roofies after everything Damon’s done including this episode (gods I don’t think I’ll ever want to watch his little talk about Elena going after air headed blondes again).
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Date: 2012-11-03 07:37 pm (UTC)I think Stefan's reasons are very much about what Stefan wants. Both brothers are projecting their ideal image of what they want Elena to be on to her. Stefan's finding it harder to deal with vampire Elena because he really wants the whole white picket fence deal. Or something, idk.
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Date: 2012-11-06 05:57 am (UTC)I agree that Stefan is making his reasons all about Elena, but that really bug me, both as someone who wants Elena out of this damn Triangle nonsense and someone who thinks the writers should write Stefan as a more rounded character. It just bugged me for reasons I'm again too wolly headed to really explain apparently (I thought about it, but I'm apparently engaged in constant battles with the english language for words to describe...stuff).