DW 7x02: as I understand it
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jedi_of_urthSo I don’t know much about this week’s DW, but here’s what I gather.
DW 7x02, according to others
-It was either really good, really meh, or not very good. I really can’t get a handle on how y’all felt about it.
-Apparently the Ponds are now officially only companions when Eleven feels like showing up. Also apparently there’s no trace of last week’s problems that almost lead to them splitting up.
-It also sounds like the show was way more interested in the one shot characters than the regulars, that’s pretty standard for the show these days I guess.
-It sounds like Chibbers was taking a hint from the criticism hurled at THE/CB, at least the sexist undertones of it the people called him on but don’t call Moff on, and tried to write the ladies better. Without seeing it I’m hesitant to say I think he succeeded, but it sounds like he was trying.
-Apparently the Doctor kills people now. Yes Mr. Choose-someone-who-never-would (as much as I didn’t quite buy that either) now decides to be the law, and it might have even been treated as a cool or necessary thing rather than an awful thing he was doing by acting like that. Even writing that makes me miss Rusty.
-While there was finally an actual appearance by a companion’s family member it sounds like the show has abandoned its tie to contemporary Earth. There’s a part of me that could almost approve of that since it was getting ridiculous that the world wasn’t radically changing thanks to what happened with the Doctor in their efforts to keep it as the world next door, but at the same time that tie was sort of an important tie back when this show...mattered...was good.
-...there were dinosaurs...on a spaceship. It occurs to me I haven’t heard much about the actual plot.
DW 7x02, according to others
-It was either really good, really meh, or not very good. I really can’t get a handle on how y’all felt about it.
-Apparently the Ponds are now officially only companions when Eleven feels like showing up. Also apparently there’s no trace of last week’s problems that almost lead to them splitting up.
-It also sounds like the show was way more interested in the one shot characters than the regulars, that’s pretty standard for the show these days I guess.
-It sounds like Chibbers was taking a hint from the criticism hurled at THE/CB, at least the sexist undertones of it the people called him on but don’t call Moff on, and tried to write the ladies better. Without seeing it I’m hesitant to say I think he succeeded, but it sounds like he was trying.
-Apparently the Doctor kills people now. Yes Mr. Choose-someone-who-never-would (as much as I didn’t quite buy that either) now decides to be the law, and it might have even been treated as a cool or necessary thing rather than an awful thing he was doing by acting like that. Even writing that makes me miss Rusty.
-While there was finally an actual appearance by a companion’s family member it sounds like the show has abandoned its tie to contemporary Earth. There’s a part of me that could almost approve of that since it was getting ridiculous that the world wasn’t radically changing thanks to what happened with the Doctor in their efforts to keep it as the world next door, but at the same time that tie was sort of an important tie back when this show...mattered...was good.
-...there were dinosaurs...on a spaceship. It occurs to me I haven’t heard much about the actual plot.
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Date: 2012-09-10 03:04 am (UTC)The episode was more interested in the one-shot characters than the Ponds or even Rory's dad. Which is a shame because the guy was like a cartoon cliche from the 1930s (sexists and all about big game hunting and flirting) and the woman was poorly acted.I think he was trying to make the ladies cooler and more important, but it didn't really work.
Apparently the Doctor kills people now. Yes Mr. Choose-someone-who-never-would (as much as I didn’t quite buy that either) now decides to be the law, and it might have even been treated as a cool or necessary thing rather than an awful thing he was doing by acting like that. Even writing that makes me miss Rusty.
Pretty much, yeah. Eleven decides to basically kill someone who had killed a whole race. Yes, well. . .Eleven has been established as non violent. As someone who does not kill; he doesn't even like weapons. But, he indirectly killed someone this week.
Moffat's idea of a Companion seems to be that this person must be there as a tool for the Doctor; must live for the Doctor. I think it's annoying, because that means character development can come and go. Plus, I enjoyed seeing the Companions (Rose, Mickey, Martha, Donna) as real people with real ties to their time and lives.
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Date: 2012-09-10 05:59 am (UTC)Eleven has been established as non violent. As someone who does not kill; he doesn't even like weapons.
From what I understand he also brainwashed the entire human race to kills aliens for him last season, so I'm not entirely surprised that he'd take to killing. I just...I miss my Doctor even just what I hear about Eleven anymore.
The weird thing about you describing the companions as tool of the Doctor these days is that they aren't actually there to help the Doctor as a character (but then...that would imply the Doctor is a character any more and not just a collection of personality quirks so maybe it shouldn't be surprising). The RTD companions were in part tools to help explore the Doctor as a person in addition to being their own characters; Moff's companions are none of those things.
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Date: 2012-09-10 10:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-09-11 05:22 am (UTC)Before the human race would see them and than forget them the moment they turned away or blinked. Now they kill them and then forget it. (Though River did rewrite history and make an alternative universe in order to stop the Doctor's death - nearly destroying time and space - because she didn't want the Doctor to die. So, who knows if that's still a thing?)
The RTD companions were in part tools to help explore the Doctor as a person in addition to being their own characters; Moff's companions are none of those things.
You have a valid point. As much as I really do like Rory and Amy, I don't feel like I know them outside of their relationship and the Doctor.