experiment

[jedi_of_urth]

Okay so this came from some of the discussions of the shipping meme earlier in the week. However it's not about 'How canon is a ship' but bow willing I am to see characters with other people. As such, an experimental meme:

Name me a character and I will tell you:

1) Who I ship that character with and why.

2) How willing I am to view the character with other people in the:
-past
-present
-future

Comments

[walkwithheroes.livejournal.com]

I'm going to have to say the Doctor. Not Nine or Ten, but the Doctor has a whole.

[jedi_of_urth]

1) Who I ship that character with and why.
Rose obviously. The why factor...it occurs to me that I didn't make it real clear how i was meant to answer this but I'm going to address it in a few different ways. I ship the Doctor with Rose because she makes him happy. I ship him with her because she makes him a better and more whole person than he can be without her. I ship them because their's is a love story for the ages, expertly told and an inspiration that TV can tell love stories. I ship them because the show does.

2) How willing I am to view the character with other people in the:
-past

Well, while intellectually I know that the Doctor almost certainly has loved before he met Rose he is 900 years old after all, I can't quite get my head or heart around it. I tend to think it was so long ago that he (in many ways) isn't the same person any more. I really don't think he had a concept of this kind of love before Rose, particularly that he could feel it.

Personally I view his relationship with Susan's grandma as formal but affectionate, and his dysfunctional cat and mouse game with the Master as that but not romantic. And while he's certainly cared for his companions and some of them might have been slightly tinged with romance, he never committed his heart to it before and kept things friendly.

-present

Since the day he met Rose there has not been any one else for him and won't be for a w good while now (Ten II probably never), it's as simple as that.

-future

Again, intellectually I accept that one day he might fall in love again but he's going to have to put some distance and time (and not just TARDIS travel wise) between him and both Rose and the issues that managed to keep him from her even. Because he's not going to be over her soon (we know that from experience) but also needs to be able to move past say his wither and die issues that like I said even with Rose he was never able to realize that it was better to have loved and lost/didn't hurt less by holding back. He still hasn't gotten that aspect of love completely and it'll be a while before I would believe he could.

However, in time, as long as it isn't she who will not be named I might be able to handle seeing him love again.

[walkwithheroes.livejournal.com]

Re: Susan's grandmother/the mother of the Doctor's kids: I always imaged it was very affectionate, but before the "new" Doctor Who (aka Nine-now) I could never see the Doctor has being sexual. There was flirting and even some ust in the series of the 70s-80s, but it never went "there", not as the new series has.



I also think Rose is "the one", if only because of the way the actors, writers, etc talk about Rose's relationship with the Doctor. I would love to see more of Rose/Ten II, but who knows if that will ever happen. I would be super happy if future Doctors went back for help from Ten II and Rose.



I agree, in time (maybe a series or so) I could see him falling for someone again. But, he's just lost Rose (again, and this time to himself) and he also lost his best friend, Donna. The guy needs some time to get his head straight. I'd actually love for his next companion to be someone broken, who he can help fix; in much the same way Rose fixed him when they first meet.

[jedi_of_urth]

Well, I've only seen a smallish fraction of Old Who so I can't completely speak to that. And it's partly the sexual component and partly the emotional one that I just don't think were...in place to have that kind of love before (ignoring the meta textual reason why now it's gone there).

in time (maybe a series or so)

My thinking was more on an in character time, which isn't really the same as how many series it is to the viewer, but I was thinking much longer than that. If we accept that Rose is The One for him, then she's his One in 900 years, I don't see how he could reasonably go there again for quite some character time.

But also on a viewer level, it's going to take me time (and not being written by Moffat) to accept the Doctor falling in love again. That yeah, a season or two at least, but some in character development to make it okay to go there.