Doctor Who things I
Jul. 25th, 2008 01:08 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
jedi_of_urthOkay so there's a transcript of the cut scene from JE out there, and there's Moffat-ism news...but for right now I'm going to focus on the Journey's End stuff, I'll rant about Moffat later.
I do think the JE beach scene would have been improved by that bit of interaction. No matter if some of the lines could have used tweaking or I probably would have wound up being mad at Ten I for the extra lying to Rose, it would have done a lot of good.
For the record, I have never needed the TARDIS coral to be canon, still don't, for me it's not that that's making me wish this was in. I think Ten II going on that "one adventure [he thought] he could never have" is going to be plenty of adventure. And it's not like Rose's life at Torchwood (which I'd have bet he became a part of) was going to be boring.
--Also side note, I bet Harriet is still President there, which makes me feel better and provides even more reason I want to see more of the adventures in that universe. Not that she has the same history with the Doctor and Rose I admit, but still it's Harriet.--
What I hadn't realized until I read that was that for me the TARDIS coral isn't necessary for me with Ten II, but it's really important for accepting that Rose did get the real Doctor. What the cut scene does is help me understand the Doctors' (Ten I and II since they think the same) reasoning regarding this choice for Rose a bit more. He really did think life with Ten II was better for her; Torchwood, TARDIS, whatever, having someone human who was also the man she fell in love with was the better end. He wasn't exiling her from the life she wanted (by giving them some TARDIS coral), just...thinking this was the better way to go at it.
By returning the "the Doctor in the TARDIS with Rose Tyler" line it also helps me believe he did see Ten II as the same man. Not just some offshoot of him that needed fixing, but the him who could have the life with her that he still thinks he can't (which...you know Doctor logic is not always exactly something I always call logic). It wasn't even about exiling Ten II because he needed fixing, that idea never sat quite right with me, it's Ten I thinking he's making the grand sacrifice so that Rose can have the life she deserves, with him (just in a blue suit) in a way he can't offer.
Still sucks for Ten I, and he's still an idiot, but at least he was trying to do the right thing (again with the Doctor logic). Still not sure I'll use this in the fanfis ideas I have, but I like it as canon I think.
So yeah, RTD, please to be confirming this as canon at some point, it makes me feel better.
I do think the JE beach scene would have been improved by that bit of interaction. No matter if some of the lines could have used tweaking or I probably would have wound up being mad at Ten I for the extra lying to Rose, it would have done a lot of good.
For the record, I have never needed the TARDIS coral to be canon, still don't, for me it's not that that's making me wish this was in. I think Ten II going on that "one adventure [he thought] he could never have" is going to be plenty of adventure. And it's not like Rose's life at Torchwood (which I'd have bet he became a part of) was going to be boring.
--Also side note, I bet Harriet is still President there, which makes me feel better and provides even more reason I want to see more of the adventures in that universe. Not that she has the same history with the Doctor and Rose I admit, but still it's Harriet.--
What I hadn't realized until I read that was that for me the TARDIS coral isn't necessary for me with Ten II, but it's really important for accepting that Rose did get the real Doctor. What the cut scene does is help me understand the Doctors' (Ten I and II since they think the same) reasoning regarding this choice for Rose a bit more. He really did think life with Ten II was better for her; Torchwood, TARDIS, whatever, having someone human who was also the man she fell in love with was the better end. He wasn't exiling her from the life she wanted (by giving them some TARDIS coral), just...thinking this was the better way to go at it.
By returning the "the Doctor in the TARDIS with Rose Tyler" line it also helps me believe he did see Ten II as the same man. Not just some offshoot of him that needed fixing, but the him who could have the life with her that he still thinks he can't (which...you know Doctor logic is not always exactly something I always call logic). It wasn't even about exiling Ten II because he needed fixing, that idea never sat quite right with me, it's Ten I thinking he's making the grand sacrifice so that Rose can have the life she deserves, with him (just in a blue suit) in a way he can't offer.
Still sucks for Ten I, and he's still an idiot, but at least he was trying to do the right thing (again with the Doctor logic). Still not sure I'll use this in the fanfis ideas I have, but I like it as canon I think.
So yeah, RTD, please to be confirming this as canon at some point, it makes me feel better.
