As usual, while I read this post I was nodding and occasionally pointing at my screen and saying, "YES! THAT! EXACTLY!" I wasn't spoiled for Allan's death at all, so it hit me pretty hard, but I'm still not as broken up as I was over Marian. I don't think anything is ever going to top that. *knocks on wood*
I can picture him on the fluffy cloud of characters past, sharing Marian’s popcorn and making a play for Roy’s candy stash with Tom and while they all settle in to watch the finale and see who’s joining them next.
This is the cutest image ever. Can Carter be there too, jealously guarding his over-priced heavenly theater slurpee? (Allan might lose a hand if he tries anything...)
I think it was a little too functional in some ways. Allan died because the writer’s decided to kill him,
Yes yes yes a THOUSAND times yes. For a long time, this show has been treating a lot of their characters as functions. They're there to fulfill some specific purpose, not to be interesting, well-rounded people. Tuck and Kate suffer from this the most, I think, mostly because they weren't established before this season, but it happened to John and Allan and Much as well. But to have them use a CHARACTER DEATH in such an obvious functional way? It's... bad form, I tell you. Well-written shows have characters serving functions as well, but they offset it with good character development and thoughtful plotting. Allowing it to be so blatantly obvious is like putting together a piece of clothing and leaving the seams showing. I don't want to see seams in my stories.
Compared it with Vasey’s use of Roy’s mother, Vasey said “Do this or I’ll hang her,” while Isabella uses “Do this and I’ll get you guys out of Nottingham before it gets worse.” I’m not arguing she hasn’t gone a little nuts, mostly based on justifiable paranoia, but she’s not actually evil in my eyes.
That's so true! Isabella may be a little less than stable, and she may be cruel where her brother and Robin are concerned, but she's not EVIL. She's also more subtle than Vasey, I think. She knows she's more likely to get Rebecca to cooperate with a promise of freedom. Giving her "operative" something to look forward to, something to lose, (like the opportunity to get her whole family out of Nottingham)is actually pretty clever of her.
Since his killing Vasey was so much of what got the gang’s attention in the first place, but I’d hate to see him cast out in the midst of realizing he failed, which is sure to upset him as much as the rest of them.
Yikes. I can only hope that the gang will believe him when he says he was sure he'd killed Vasey. They have every reason not to, though, and I almost wouldn't blame them for thinking he'd been playing them all along.
I can probably take him dying better than I could take him turning back to the dark side
Me too. As much as I love watching RA act, as much as I love Guy as a character, as much as I would miss him terribly, I would rather have him die than go back to being the way he was.
That being said, I really REALLY hope that the writers don't mess up his redemption. I can't believe that they'll have him end up a bad guy, though. (I kind of want to see him be tempted and MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE for once.) To have him come this far and then go back to Vasey would be throwing everything he's gone through all season out the window. (Wait... that complaint sounds familiar... where have I heard that befo-- oh crap. *is now terrified for Guy's developing morality*)
Your odds make a whole lot of sense to me... My "likelihood of dying" list, in descending order from "most likely" to "least likely" goes something like this: Robin, Vasey, Much, Guy, Isabella, Little John, Tuck, Kate, and Archer. Robin and Vasey are almost sure things for me, Much and Guy's chances aren't much better, Isabella, LJ, and Tuck are in danger only because killing them would, as you said, up the body count, and Kate and Archer are pretty safe. Kate because they killed a female lead last season, and Archer because they're setting him up to take Robin's place. (If Archer dies, it'll be one of the greatest fake outs ever...)
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Date: 2009-06-26 04:54 pm (UTC)I can picture him on the fluffy cloud of characters past, sharing Marian’s popcorn and making a play for Roy’s candy stash with Tom and while they all settle in to watch the finale and see who’s joining them next.
This is the cutest image ever. Can Carter be there too, jealously guarding his over-priced heavenly theater slurpee? (Allan might lose a hand if he tries anything...)
I think it was a little too functional in some ways. Allan died because the writer’s decided to kill him,
Yes yes yes a THOUSAND times yes. For a long time, this show has been treating a lot of their characters as functions. They're there to fulfill some specific purpose, not to be interesting, well-rounded people. Tuck and Kate suffer from this the most, I think, mostly because they weren't established before this season, but it happened to John and Allan and Much as well. But to have them use a CHARACTER DEATH in such an obvious functional way? It's... bad form, I tell you. Well-written shows have characters serving functions as well, but they offset it with good character development and thoughtful plotting. Allowing it to be so blatantly obvious is like putting together a piece of clothing and leaving the seams showing. I don't want to see seams in my stories.
Compared it with Vasey’s use of Roy’s mother, Vasey said “Do this or I’ll hang her,” while Isabella uses “Do this and I’ll get you guys out of Nottingham before it gets worse.” I’m not arguing she hasn’t gone a little nuts, mostly based on justifiable paranoia, but she’s not actually evil in my eyes.
That's so true! Isabella may be a little less than stable, and she may be cruel where her brother and Robin are concerned, but she's not EVIL. She's also more subtle than Vasey, I think. She knows she's more likely to get Rebecca to cooperate with a promise of freedom. Giving her "operative" something to look forward to, something to lose, (like the opportunity to get her whole family out of Nottingham)is actually pretty clever of her.
Since his killing Vasey was so much of what got the gang’s attention in the first place, but I’d hate to see him cast out in the midst of realizing he failed, which is sure to upset him as much as the rest of them.
Yikes. I can only hope that the gang will believe him when he says he was sure he'd killed Vasey. They have every reason not to, though, and I almost wouldn't blame them for thinking he'd been playing them all along.
I can probably take him dying better than I could take him turning back to the dark side
Me too. As much as I love watching RA act, as much as I love Guy as a character, as much as I would miss him terribly, I would rather have him die than go back to being the way he was.
That being said, I really REALLY hope that the writers don't mess up his redemption. I can't believe that they'll have him end up a bad guy, though. (I kind of want to see him be tempted and MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE for once.) To have him come this far and then go back to Vasey would be throwing everything he's gone through all season out the window. (Wait... that complaint sounds familiar... where have I heard that befo-- oh crap. *is now terrified for Guy's developing morality*)
Your odds make a whole lot of sense to me... My "likelihood of dying" list, in descending order from "most likely" to "least likely" goes something like this: Robin, Vasey, Much, Guy, Isabella, Little John, Tuck, Kate, and Archer. Robin and Vasey are almost sure things for me, Much and Guy's chances aren't much better, Isabella, LJ, and Tuck are in danger only because killing them would, as you said, up the body count, and Kate and Archer are pretty safe. Kate because they killed a female lead last season, and Archer because they're setting him up to take Robin's place. (If Archer dies, it'll be one of the greatest fake outs ever...)