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jedi_of_urth) wrote2012-06-23 04:41 pm
jedi_of_urth) wrote2012-06-23 04:41 pm
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Feeling herdlike
Since it's the cool meme of the day.
Give me a ship (that I have enough knowledge of) and:
who is the big spoon/little spoon
what is their favorite non-sexual activity
who uses all the hot water in the morning
what they order from take out
what is the most trivial thing they fight over
who does most of the cleaning
what has a season pass in their DVR
who steals the blankets
who leaves their stuff around
who remembers to buy the milk
who remembers anniversaries
who needs more alone time
who decorates the house for holidays
Give me a ship (that I have enough knowledge of) and:
who is the big spoon/little spoon
what is their favorite non-sexual activity
who uses all the hot water in the morning
what they order from take out
what is the most trivial thing they fight over
who does most of the cleaning
what has a season pass in their DVR
who steals the blankets
who leaves their stuff around
who remembers to buy the milk
who remembers anniversaries
who needs more alone time
who decorates the house for holidays
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They switch off, though Harry's probably the big spoon more than Hermione
what is their favorite non-sexual activity
Spending quiet time together, Hermione reads obviously, Harry floats from hobby to hobby, but being able to take it slow and easy together
who uses all the hot water in the morning
They're magical and don't have to worry about it (but both try and blame the other if it does happen)
what they order from take out
Hermione keeps wanting to try new places, Harry isn't real picky.
what is the most trivial thing they fight over
The proper filing system for their movies, Hermione likes alphabetical, Harry likes by genre.
who does most of the cleaning
Hermione, at first, over time Harry does more of his share
what has a season pass in their DVR
The Office (they liked the British one, but they still like the US one too)
who steals the blankets
Hermione surprisingly
who leaves their stuff around
Depends on what stuff, Hermione is prone to leaving things places that seemed logical to her at the time even if it isn't very logical, Harry just puts less thought into it
who remembers to buy the milk
Both of them, although Hermione forgets sometimes if it isn't on her list
who remembers anniversaries
Both of them usually, they can each forget sometimes too.
who needs more alone time
Harry, he's sometimes a little too quick to give Hermione alone time for her tastes, but she's sometimes a little slow for his.
who decorates the house for holidays
Hermione plans it, Harry does most of the decorating (and Hermione pretends not to mind much when he embellishes on her plans)
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Elijah's usually the big spoon, but after a while he's willing to admit he's cool with Elena spooning him sometimes
what is their favorite non-sexual activity
They end up writing some books together while they travel the world, and secretly like riffing on bad movies together
who uses all the hot water in the morning
Elijah's a bit of a prima donna it turns out, and Elena prefers baths.
what they order from take out
Well they take their blood to go...(or even worse joke, 'the delivery guy') But also either pizza (where Elena picks unusual toppings) or Mediterranean (where Elijah likes making her try different things)
what is the most trivial thing they fight over
Which Twilight movie sucks the most/least
who does most of the cleaning
Elijah, Elena likes it that way.
what has a season pass in their DVR
Revenge, because both of them are quite interested in the premiss (and totally not because it's on my mind so was about the only thing I could think of).
who steals the blankets
Elena, Elijah's a pretty still sleeper (and long since accepted that he doesn't need covers)
who leaves their stuff around
Elena, she's not much of a mess, but Elijah is...Elijah
who remembers to buy the milk
Depends on if they actually need it. Elena remembers for the sake of having milk around, Elijah remembers is they need it for something specific.
who remembers anniversaries
Both, for a while...
who needs more alone time
Neither, but that may just be that I find them being left alone disheartening. They *do* both have the capacity to be too clingy though so neither or both, take your pick.
who decorates the house for holidays
Elena starts it, but ends up letting Elijah do most of the work
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who is the big spoon/little spoon
It's not a hard and fast role for them, but Rose is often the big spoon.
what is their favorite non-sexual activity
As long as they can do it together, they're up for anything.
who uses all the hot water in the morning
They're both guilty of it, though the Doctor is more likely to do it because he forgot it was an issue, Rose tends to have actual reasons.
what they order from take out
Depends on how much of a hurry they're in (be it for world saving rush, having just escaped tea at Jackie's, or the Doctor tried to improve the stove and so nothing cooked right), actually they do takeout a lot so they go lots of places.
what is the most trivial thing they fight over
They both get urges to redecorate periodically, this leads to fights over the proper angel of the couch relative to the TV (especially since they don't actually watch that much TV).
who does most of the cleaning
Rose, the Doctor hasn't quite adjusted to having to do regular cleaning
what has a season pass in their DVR
Inspector Spacetime (it's totally a show in the alt-verse)
who steals the blankets
The Doctor, though Rose can hold her own and sometimes gets more than her share (and they both just end up using it as an excuse to cuddle anyway).
who leaves their stuff around
Rose isn't exactly the most tidy person around, but the Doctor tends to leave all kinds of half finished projects lying about.
who remembers to buy the milk
Rose, and she likes it that way since when the Doctor does do the shopping he buys the wrong kinds and too much of it.
who remembers anniversaries
Rose remembers the old anniversaries (although she tries to play it off as no big deal since the dates aren't really accurate anyway...wait that's headcanon from another set of stories), the Doctor is committed to celebrating all the new ones.
who needs more alone time
Rose, the Doctor's gotten pretty clingy after everything. She doesn't mind that much most of the time.
who decorates the house for holidays
The do it together, but the Doctor goes overboard with it so ends up doing more work that Rose would think necessary.
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Hahah np at all!! I like your answers!! =D
... I have a some Flisters who have JE problems, j/w, what are yours? (I don't, but I like to hear what others think) Feel free to rant all you want XD
Part 1
To start with I put most of the wrong on the writing of it as opposed to the IDEA of what happened. I'm not crazy about the idea but if it had been written well I think I could have bought into it a whole lot more than I did.
I think a lot of it starts from the fact that RTD bit off more than he could chew for the s4 finale, wanting it to be a giant blowout with just about everyone we could want around involved, and yet needing to pretty much set things right back where they started in the end of the story. This can be seen even in the small things he did change in the end, like leaving Mickey in the DW main verse, IT MAKES NO SENSE because there wasn't time to explore his motivations at all.
But the worst of it is the resolution of the Doctor and Rose story. Let's start with the problems with the very idea of this resolution working:
-We watched two seasons of the Doctor dealing with losing Rose, the very idea that he would choose to leave her makes no sense
-Having gone through all that with him feels utterly useless when he appears unable to learn anything from the experience, he continues to angst about the fact that he always ends up alone and the proceeds to push people away rather than face the pain of losing them later.
-RTD has even admitted that the idea that Rose would chose Cloen over Ten makes very little sense and I fully agree
Now, some things that *could* have been been done (better) in order to deal with the flaws in the concept:
-Do a better job of establishing Ten and Cloen as equally the Doctor (I will never get over tha fact that Ten goes and says goodbye to all the companions as they leave but Cloen's nowhere to be seen, making it clear to me that RTD DIDN'T consider them equally the Doctor).
-Especially give some time for Rose to accept Cloen as still the man she loves and tried so hard to get back to. We never see then interact (except a bit in the background of a couple shots) before the BWB scene
-Write Rose as actively choosing Cloen (+remaining in Pete's World) instead of being passed off between Doctors. I know some would argue that she did but it's completely undercut by everything in the scene besides the kiss.
And then there's the big one that really could have been fixed by a rewrite, and though it wouldn't have saved it it could have been done in a way that made me less ragey about the whole thing to this day:
-Ten's sales pitch. Nothing about it is the least bit convincing that we should accept Cloen as the same man; that Rose would be happier choosing Cloen; that he's learned anything over the last two seasons and who knows how many years for him. It's almost completely OOC, and certainly OOC for in sympathetic character interpretation. It makes absolutely no sense for him to talk about things that way or for him to sneak off without actually saying goodbye, I don't buy it.
The only thing that saves the scene (as much as it cane be saved) is Cloen himself actually. I'd almost say that HE'S actually more believable as the Doctor than Ten, because after Doomsday I don't believe the Doctor would balk in the slightest at spending any and all time he could with Rose or that he would ever give her up if he had in his power to not have to. If Cloen wasn't undercut by the writing at most other points in the story I'd take this and run with it, but I (and I'd think Rose) need more.
Part 2
That's not the full extent of my JE issues while I'm up on this soapbox. I could go on a rant about the lack of anything between Rose and Jack when there are still issues they should work out. The previously mentioned issue with Mickey's choice, which has additional issues considering the way Rose's story was resolved (that only makes any sense at all on a meta level since I believe RTD was considering bringing him into Torchwood, but then loses the meaning since he decided against it). The rushed way most of the story played out.
And then there's Donna. Look, I love Donna, but I think her story was handled poorly, if this was the way it was going to be resolved. RTD did a bad job getting the other writers to set up her self-worth issues so they seem kind of random coming up here. And then it's not about Donna realizing her OWN awesome, it's about getting n influx of Time Lord-ness that supposedly makes her the equal of him. No Donna, you need to realize that you always were...except you always seemed to get that until RTD needed that to be your issue here.
I actually have less issue with the memory wipe than all that. To me the memory wipe is tragic, and it's treated as tragic, but it's handled in a way that makes sense as opposed to the way RTD introduced too late and then undermined what could have been an okay character arc for Donna to have. And the way he dealt the the Doctor/Rose story of course, always that.
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(Oh, and may I say, I share a lot of your issues with "Journey's End". Someone in the Dr. Who thread on the RH Yuku forum said that Rose ending up with 10.5 or whatever you want call him is essentially bad fanfiction, and I concur. As for Donna ... yeah, I kinda hated the memory wipe, too.)
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Guy sees himself as the big spoon, doesn't mean Marian agrees right away. Over time she finds she likes him holding her.
what is their favorite non-sexual activity
Riding. I'd say practicing sword fighting or archery, but that's basically foreplay for them anyway.
who uses all the hot water in the morning
Whoever gets up first.
what they order from take out
Considering they're nobles it's not like they do their own cooking (basically I'm not sure how to treat some of these for historical settings).
what is the most trivial thing they fight over
Considering they can end up fighting over anything if the mood strikes them most of it's actually pretty trivial
who does most of the cleaning
The servants, though Marian does do more than Guy.
what has a season pass in their DVR
)well, I can't say it's impossible in this show...) I don't know why but I think they'd get a kick out of Buffy.
who steals the blankets
Marian steals them, Guy steals them back, Marian threatens to move into her own room, Guy talks her into cuddling instead so there's no issue (plus he always wanted it to end up like that anyway).
who leaves their stuff around
Guy throws things around a bit more willy-nilly than Marian, but Marian doesn't rush to put her stuff away usually either.
who remembers to buy the milk
Marian, Guy just expects someone to take are of it if they're out.
who remembers anniversaries
Guy, totally Guy.
who needs more alone time
Either, both. It takes them both a while to get used to sharing their lives and how joins them (with Marian also having to adjust to the idea that it's Guy that shes doing it with). But once they figure things out they're not exactly joined at the hip (when they're not joined at...other parts) so neither really "needs" it so much anymore.
who decorates the house for holidays
Marian, as lady of the house an because I think she'd *make* it her job.
The memory wipe is a weird one for me, because I actually don't have that many issues with it. It's heartbreaking, but it also fits the story so that it's perfectly beautifully heartbreaking. It MAKES SENSE, as opposed to so many other resolutions in the episode. RTD is usually so much better at making the angst and hurt...transcendent, and the memory wipe is the sort of thing he does right. My issues have more to do with how the rest of the episode treated Donna's character just to make the end even more tragic.
The thing about Cloen/Rose is that it *is* basically a gift to fanfic writers. You have this whole sandbox for them to play in
where Moffat can't touch themand it was definitely going for a happily ever vibewithout the Moff messing hem up, it just fails to present it in a way that convinces me.no subject
Also LOL @ "who remembers anniversaries" and "when they're not joined at ... other parts." Hee.
Re the memory wipe .... yyyeaaahh, a part of me thinks it's beautifully heartbreaking and another part thinks it's kind of unnecessarily sadistic to both Donna and the audience. :( As for Cloen/Rose ... yeah, what you said.
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You just know Marian would be like "our anniversary is sometime next month right?" and Guy's like "It's on the 15th, at 3'oclock in the afternoon. Unless you mean some other anniversary like our first kiss which is..." and proceeds to rattle off every significant date in their history. And can't possible fathom why she doesn't remember them.
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Speaking of, may I tempt you with an amazing good G/M fic? So far it's posted only on the RH forum I keep telling you about, as part of our recent ficathon. It's written to a prompt that basically involves rewriting "Do You Love Me" (3x06) for an AU in which Marian is alive and married to Guy. The results were pretty awesome. Voila: Shackled
'Course, that's another invitation to join up. ;) (By the way, the other day was the third anniversary of the RH finale. Link contains amazingly good video that kind of recaps all the awesome things about the show.)