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jedi_of_urth) wrote2009-04-14 06:50 pm
jedi_of_urth) wrote2009-04-14 06:50 pm
TBBT and HIMYM
Okay so I haven't done any of my anglophile weekend reaction post/reviews yet but I guess I'm feeling the need to do a Monday Night Comedy bit also known as...
My unpopular opinions, let me show them to you
Okay, on The Big Bang Theory I don't really have a ship (in itself a little unusual, for me and for fandom) and I don't really think this episode was pro any ship really. The last few weeks have really been about how much like the guys Penny has become, which is great. She's not going to be going in full costume to ComicCon any time soon, but she's a lot more like them than she was at the beginning.
This week's was probably funnier than last week's but I think I liked last week's better; but they're really great taken together.
So...HIMYM. This is more where the unpopular opinions come in. It was cute and fun and funny and everything, but I do think they're pushing Barney/Robin too hard by having Marshall say they'd be perfect together. Encouraging it I can see, thinking it could work sure, but "perfect" I think is a bit much.
Sure I'm not completely sold on Barney/Robin yet, particularly not long term, but I did actually respect Ted pulling out of the semi-relationship in "Benefits" for Barney's sake, I didn't think that was pushing too far. I find the fact that now everyone (including probably several people at the bar) knows except Robin kind of sad but funny. I even *like* watching Barney squirm with this. But...I still don't really feel the ship, so having other characters, main characters, claim it would be some perfect wonderful thing just rubs me the wrong way.
In the spirit of full disclosure though, I think I have to consider myself a Ted/Robin shipper (even though I *know* it's never going to work out) and do think Robin's still half in love with Ted. So while I can appriciate Barney's feelings for Robin, I have a hard time seeing her returning them. Yes I do recognize the irony of supporting a canonically doomed ship but refusing to get on one that at least might work out just because *I* don't think it will.
Also, I really identify with Ted here, in fact I probably I identify with him more than is good, because his explanation at the end bears a *lot* of resemblance to my own lack of job situation
My unpopular opinions, let me show them to you
Okay, on The Big Bang Theory I don't really have a ship (in itself a little unusual, for me and for fandom) and I don't really think this episode was pro any ship really. The last few weeks have really been about how much like the guys Penny has become, which is great. She's not going to be going in full costume to ComicCon any time soon, but she's a lot more like them than she was at the beginning.
This week's was probably funnier than last week's but I think I liked last week's better; but they're really great taken together.
So...HIMYM. This is more where the unpopular opinions come in. It was cute and fun and funny and everything, but I do think they're pushing Barney/Robin too hard by having Marshall say they'd be perfect together. Encouraging it I can see, thinking it could work sure, but "perfect" I think is a bit much.
Sure I'm not completely sold on Barney/Robin yet, particularly not long term, but I did actually respect Ted pulling out of the semi-relationship in "Benefits" for Barney's sake, I didn't think that was pushing too far. I find the fact that now everyone (including probably several people at the bar) knows except Robin kind of sad but funny. I even *like* watching Barney squirm with this. But...I still don't really feel the ship, so having other characters, main characters, claim it would be some perfect wonderful thing just rubs me the wrong way.
In the spirit of full disclosure though, I think I have to consider myself a Ted/Robin shipper (even though I *know* it's never going to work out) and do think Robin's still half in love with Ted. So while I can appriciate Barney's feelings for Robin, I have a hard time seeing her returning them. Yes I do recognize the irony of supporting a canonically doomed ship but refusing to get on one that at least might work out just because *I* don't think it will.
Also, I really identify with Ted here, in fact I probably I identify with him more than is good, because his explanation at the end bears a *lot* of resemblance to my own lack of job situation
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I've supported doomed ships before... More often when I know a character is going to die and I ship them anyway, but I've had other doomed ships. And I've definitely had some where you get that bad feeling that they're doomed but you don't know for sure what the writers will do.
You never really know what writers will do though. It seems some shows stick with the ship that's been canon from the start while others will give the majority of the shippers what they want (if it's not really canon from the start).
I think you've posted stuff before that suggested you're a Ted/Robin shipper. That may be someone else on my flist though... Even as a Barney/Robin shipper, I admit that I'm not sure if she'd have feelings for him.
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I'm not even sure how it feels like I'm out of the habit. I have quite a history with non-canon and doomed ships. I mean, even Doctor/Rose was always combined with the worry for how the show could deal with it and maintain it's structure.
But let's examine even just some of my recent ships:
Adama/Roslin - dying on cancer
Lee/Kara - completely frakked up *and* doomed
Guy/Marian - bastard stabbed her himself (and I still manage to ship them)
Ned/Chuck - adorable but not able to touch
Jim/Pam - okay that one's actually good
Granted most of those have a canon reason for it (but so does it in the HIMYM case) even if it's twisted. I'm also a long standing and unrepentant Buffy/Giles and Harry/Hermione shipper. Again, why am I surprised my shipping tastes aren't in the norm?
I think you've posted stuff before that suggested you're a Ted/Robin shipper. That may be someone else on my flist though...
I'm sure I've hinted at it before, at least in the sense that while I was completely sold on Ted/Robin, Barney/Robin didn't quite gel for me, but I'm not sure I put it so...in contrast to each other before. I've tried to write a couple of meta bits on the subject but I can't seem to find the words for why B/R doesn't work for me.