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jedi_of_urth) wrote2015-04-18 01:33 am
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Superheroes and Star Wars
So an update on my superhero shows of the week:
I think I was a little disappointed in all of them quite frankly.
The Flash (1x18)
As fun as Cisko and Ray interacting is (really Ray would make a lot of sense joining Team Flash when he’s inevitably run out of Starling), this episode does not work with Arrow continuity at all. It certainly doesn’t fit between 3x18-19 where it aired, there’s absolutely no room for it; it really feels like it should have been back around the time before Dig and Lyla got married except that Ray didn’t know about Team Arrow then, but that’s the only era when Felicity and Ray’s relationship could have been anything like this relaxed. Felicity was still mostly in character when it came to her and Barry’s relationship, and her as an outside voice but also the experienced one she can offer advice he can’t get from anyone else. But if I ever believed the Felicity/Ray relationship was this comfortable (although they did actually point out how creepy Ray’s behavior was at the beginning, it would be creepy enough seeking a business partner that way, a romantic one – eek) it certainly isn’t now. Also, why did they bring Eddie into the club but not Iris in the first place? Eddie’s probably going to complete his Tommy parallel and die tragically now and it will be on Barry and Joe’s head. But at least now Cisko and Catelyn know about Wells, so that’s something
Arrow (3x19)
I kind of want to call this sexist bullshit, but I kind of don’t think it is (by which I mean the attack on Thea, the amounts on manpain Oliver and Ray get into over Felicity may be however), or if it is then it’s sexist bullshit in character on Ra’s’ part. Doesn’t mean I like it, but in the effort to push Oliver into taking over as the head of the League, the next step in Ra’s’ mind was to go after someone close to Oliver and it makes sense it would be Thea; and in fact we should probably take it as a lesser bit of sexist bullshit that it was the beloved sibling with a reason to be attacked (still should probably call sexist bullshit on Malcolm using Thea to kill Sara in the first place) and not the love interest with no other justification than to motive the hero. And to be honest, I kind of enjoyed the manpain over Felicity, I do like the soap opera elements after all, one has to to keep watching shows on the CW.
Agents of SHIELD (2x17)
Sigh, now that Skye is off in her own plotline unconnected with the other characters I’m bored out of my mind by it. The Bahrain flashback plot was something we needed to see, probably deserved to see much earlier than this, and I love all the SHIELD politicking plots (I’m not sure I understand how the Coulson apparently (because I’m not convinced that it’s actually true) building his own Avengers team actually fits in continuity for this season but we’ll see if they can pull it off), I’m all over the May/Coulson elements it has or could lead to, Fitz is completely adorable, and I quite enjoy Simmons getting so much better at lying, but I’m back to hating Skye now. Go away Skye, your plot is dumb and I don’t want to see any more of it ever; I certainly never want to see your annoying mom or asshole dad ever again and at this point I don’t want to see you either.
A little babble inspired by the new Star Wars trailer
You’d probably think based on my screen name that I’m a big Star Wars fan, but this name is homaging a couple of my favorite role playing characters from several years back now (I’m not the type to change my name around once I’ve settled into it), obviously one of which was from a Star Wars game. And whatever the plot of ep7, it won’t be about Heena and Pheenix and Rafier so it’s not connecting with the part of Star Wars closest to my heart.
But I am looking forward to it, and the trailer is encouraging, it *seems* to be doing things right. I’m feeling a little more cautiously optimistic the more I see about it, but I doubt I’ll tip over into fully optimistic at...any point. I was...fifteen with Ep1 came out (I can’t remember what year it was, but I remember going to see it opening night, having to ditch out on the speech and debate end of year dinner to go see Star Wars and people being jealous that we had tickets that night) and I was so stoked, and at the time I didn’t dislike it. But I grew up with Star Wars and contrary to my love undying for Babylon 5, my tastes have changed, and in a lot of ways I associate loving the Star Wars movies with me at a much younger age. Still, it’s been a long time since I just sat and watched the movies and saw if I could still just be a fan of them outside of everything (good and bad elements) that have been layered on to my viewing of them over the years. Maybe this is a chance to recapture some of that, but I can’t quite shake the thought that that’s what I would have let myself think at 15 and should know better now.
I think I was a little disappointed in all of them quite frankly.
The Flash (1x18)
As fun as Cisko and Ray interacting is (really Ray would make a lot of sense joining Team Flash when he’s inevitably run out of Starling), this episode does not work with Arrow continuity at all. It certainly doesn’t fit between 3x18-19 where it aired, there’s absolutely no room for it; it really feels like it should have been back around the time before Dig and Lyla got married except that Ray didn’t know about Team Arrow then, but that’s the only era when Felicity and Ray’s relationship could have been anything like this relaxed. Felicity was still mostly in character when it came to her and Barry’s relationship, and her as an outside voice but also the experienced one she can offer advice he can’t get from anyone else. But if I ever believed the Felicity/Ray relationship was this comfortable (although they did actually point out how creepy Ray’s behavior was at the beginning, it would be creepy enough seeking a business partner that way, a romantic one – eek) it certainly isn’t now. Also, why did they bring Eddie into the club but not Iris in the first place? Eddie’s probably going to complete his Tommy parallel and die tragically now and it will be on Barry and Joe’s head. But at least now Cisko and Catelyn know about Wells, so that’s something
Arrow (3x19)
I kind of want to call this sexist bullshit, but I kind of don’t think it is (by which I mean the attack on Thea, the amounts on manpain Oliver and Ray get into over Felicity may be however), or if it is then it’s sexist bullshit in character on Ra’s’ part. Doesn’t mean I like it, but in the effort to push Oliver into taking over as the head of the League, the next step in Ra’s’ mind was to go after someone close to Oliver and it makes sense it would be Thea; and in fact we should probably take it as a lesser bit of sexist bullshit that it was the beloved sibling with a reason to be attacked (still should probably call sexist bullshit on Malcolm using Thea to kill Sara in the first place) and not the love interest with no other justification than to motive the hero. And to be honest, I kind of enjoyed the manpain over Felicity, I do like the soap opera elements after all, one has to to keep watching shows on the CW.
Agents of SHIELD (2x17)
Sigh, now that Skye is off in her own plotline unconnected with the other characters I’m bored out of my mind by it. The Bahrain flashback plot was something we needed to see, probably deserved to see much earlier than this, and I love all the SHIELD politicking plots (I’m not sure I understand how the Coulson apparently (because I’m not convinced that it’s actually true) building his own Avengers team actually fits in continuity for this season but we’ll see if they can pull it off), I’m all over the May/Coulson elements it has or could lead to, Fitz is completely adorable, and I quite enjoy Simmons getting so much better at lying, but I’m back to hating Skye now. Go away Skye, your plot is dumb and I don’t want to see any more of it ever; I certainly never want to see your annoying mom or asshole dad ever again and at this point I don’t want to see you either.
A little babble inspired by the new Star Wars trailer
You’d probably think based on my screen name that I’m a big Star Wars fan, but this name is homaging a couple of my favorite role playing characters from several years back now (I’m not the type to change my name around once I’ve settled into it), obviously one of which was from a Star Wars game. And whatever the plot of ep7, it won’t be about Heena and Pheenix and Rafier so it’s not connecting with the part of Star Wars closest to my heart.
But I am looking forward to it, and the trailer is encouraging, it *seems* to be doing things right. I’m feeling a little more cautiously optimistic the more I see about it, but I doubt I’ll tip over into fully optimistic at...any point. I was...fifteen with Ep1 came out (I can’t remember what year it was, but I remember going to see it opening night, having to ditch out on the speech and debate end of year dinner to go see Star Wars and people being jealous that we had tickets that night) and I was so stoked, and at the time I didn’t dislike it. But I grew up with Star Wars and contrary to my love undying for Babylon 5, my tastes have changed, and in a lot of ways I associate loving the Star Wars movies with me at a much younger age. Still, it’s been a long time since I just sat and watched the movies and saw if I could still just be a fan of them outside of everything (good and bad elements) that have been layered on to my viewing of them over the years. Maybe this is a chance to recapture some of that, but I can’t quite shake the thought that that’s what I would have let myself think at 15 and should know better now.