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jedi_of_urth) wrote2011-02-15 08:59 pm
jedi_of_urth) wrote2011-02-15 08:59 pm
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Me and TVD update
So as of last night I’m caught up on The Vampire Diaries. I do have to say the show is addictive, but I stand by my comment in my earlier post, I like it, I just don’t know why I like it. I have a strong urge to rewatch it when I’m not even sure I’m all that into it. It’s a very strange feeling.
Elijah it the new pretty vampire in town. Contrary to normal opinion I’m sure, I don’t really find the Salvatore brothers all that hot (attractive yet but not lusty), but somehow Elijah does it for me. Somehow I feel that pervy comments like this are appropriate for starting talk about TVD, I think might be connected to why I keep thinking about Robin Hood where how drool-worthy Armitage was in any given ep was usually my lead off.
I really don’t know how I’m going to adapt to watching it week to week now. Inhaling it in such a large group meant I was fully capable of saying “I’ll wait and see where this leads” especially if it was something I didn’t care for. Now waiting to see means a lot more time than it has up until now.
Because I’m not crazy about what they’re doing with Elena right now. It’s making it even harder for me to get into her head than it was before and I was never very good at it. I just want to jump to the point where girl starts to fight back again. This martyrdom thing, while not out of character for my reading of her, is not something I’m really enjoying. It just seems less like her story these days than it did.
I’m willing to admit it could well be building to something, like Stefan getting back on small amounts of human blood could be going somewhere epic, hell it *probably* is given the show’s past, but I just don’t know if waiting for it to happen is going to work with the way I watch this show.
Damon is kind of bugging me more than before, then from time to time I really love him, or at least feel for him. Which I think makes me want to throttle him more the rest of the time than I would if not for those moments. He’s still not Guy of Gisborne for me to want to cuddle him when he does awful things, not by a long shot. I do want him to be better, I’m kind of being Stefan about it except for more wanting to pound it into his head.
I haven’t quite put my finger yet on why the werewolf plot isn’t working for me. Tyler’s story is relatively interesting (no chance of me getting in her head either though), but the rest I can take or leave. Well, except for killing Rose, that almost made me cry (seriously TVD, you DO NOT get to make me cry) and I don’t think it was just because she shared a name with one of my all time favorite characters.
(Screaming NOOOOO, RRRRROOOOOSSSSSEEEEEEE is a little too familiar).
I’m past ready for Jenna and Matt to be let into the know. I can kind of maybe get not telling Matt (Vicki issues and everything), but somebody get that kid Vervained. And it’s just silly not to tell Jenna at this point.
I’ve recently realized I care more about Jeremy’s dating life than Elena’s. Jeremy/Anna kind of broke my heart, especially her death, and now Jeremy/Bonnie is just being adorable. I’m still not in any place to write fic for them or anything but I borderline care about these ships.
Minor continuity rage, after Caroline was vamped, how did she get back into her house? We never saw that moment of screen, and I think it was necessary. Other than that Caroline’s story is mostly working for me. The stuff with her mom was really touching (another TVD should not make me want to cry moment) but it could have used more.
This is where the fast pace of the show kind of works against it a bit. I think I’d be interested in seeing more of how vamp-Caroline deals with vampire-hunter-Liz. Hey wait...
You know I think this comes back to my basic issue with really getting into the show. The plot moves along at a great pace and I *love* the plot, but a lot of potential interesting character drama we’re not seeing because of that. Such as, we don’t see much of Tyler’s feelings over causing someone to die, we focus on the (more plot relevant) werewolf-ism. More on Caroline’s feelings once she remembers everything Damon did to her? When exactly did Elena and Jeremy make up from their fight? Is Jenna making an effort to be a better guardian or has she just decided to go with the flow?
I love massively epic plots and I know most of these things would have little to do with that and it’s not bad to focus on the most relevant and exciting parts of the story but…the fact still stands that while I quite like the show the characters don’t speak to me.
Anyway back to other thoughts. Katherine is pretty awesome, but then she always kind of was even in flashbacks. I can’t decide if I think they did the right thing by moving on to bigger baddies so quickly, but a) it’s probably leading somewhere awesome and b) it flowed well in the story. Also the episode where they took her on was seriously awesome (except for being part of my frustration at Elena’s more passive role in the story).
So, yeah, I think that covers most of my thoughts at the moment. We’ll see where I stand once I start watching episodes I haven’t been spoiled for but on a longer time gap.
Elijah it the new pretty vampire in town. Contrary to normal opinion I’m sure, I don’t really find the Salvatore brothers all that hot (attractive yet but not lusty), but somehow Elijah does it for me. Somehow I feel that pervy comments like this are appropriate for starting talk about TVD, I think might be connected to why I keep thinking about Robin Hood where how drool-worthy Armitage was in any given ep was usually my lead off.
I really don’t know how I’m going to adapt to watching it week to week now. Inhaling it in such a large group meant I was fully capable of saying “I’ll wait and see where this leads” especially if it was something I didn’t care for. Now waiting to see means a lot more time than it has up until now.
Because I’m not crazy about what they’re doing with Elena right now. It’s making it even harder for me to get into her head than it was before and I was never very good at it. I just want to jump to the point where girl starts to fight back again. This martyrdom thing, while not out of character for my reading of her, is not something I’m really enjoying. It just seems less like her story these days than it did.
I’m willing to admit it could well be building to something, like Stefan getting back on small amounts of human blood could be going somewhere epic, hell it *probably* is given the show’s past, but I just don’t know if waiting for it to happen is going to work with the way I watch this show.
Damon is kind of bugging me more than before, then from time to time I really love him, or at least feel for him. Which I think makes me want to throttle him more the rest of the time than I would if not for those moments. He’s still not Guy of Gisborne for me to want to cuddle him when he does awful things, not by a long shot. I do want him to be better, I’m kind of being Stefan about it except for more wanting to pound it into his head.
I haven’t quite put my finger yet on why the werewolf plot isn’t working for me. Tyler’s story is relatively interesting (no chance of me getting in her head either though), but the rest I can take or leave. Well, except for killing Rose, that almost made me cry (seriously TVD, you DO NOT get to make me cry) and I don’t think it was just because she shared a name with one of my all time favorite characters.
(Screaming NOOOOO, RRRRROOOOOSSSSSEEEEEEE is a little too familiar).
I’m past ready for Jenna and Matt to be let into the know. I can kind of maybe get not telling Matt (Vicki issues and everything), but somebody get that kid Vervained. And it’s just silly not to tell Jenna at this point.
I’ve recently realized I care more about Jeremy’s dating life than Elena’s. Jeremy/Anna kind of broke my heart, especially her death, and now Jeremy/Bonnie is just being adorable. I’m still not in any place to write fic for them or anything but I borderline care about these ships.
Minor continuity rage, after Caroline was vamped, how did she get back into her house? We never saw that moment of screen, and I think it was necessary. Other than that Caroline’s story is mostly working for me. The stuff with her mom was really touching (another TVD should not make me want to cry moment) but it could have used more.
This is where the fast pace of the show kind of works against it a bit. I think I’d be interested in seeing more of how vamp-Caroline deals with vampire-hunter-Liz. Hey wait...
You know I think this comes back to my basic issue with really getting into the show. The plot moves along at a great pace and I *love* the plot, but a lot of potential interesting character drama we’re not seeing because of that. Such as, we don’t see much of Tyler’s feelings over causing someone to die, we focus on the (more plot relevant) werewolf-ism. More on Caroline’s feelings once she remembers everything Damon did to her? When exactly did Elena and Jeremy make up from their fight? Is Jenna making an effort to be a better guardian or has she just decided to go with the flow?
I love massively epic plots and I know most of these things would have little to do with that and it’s not bad to focus on the most relevant and exciting parts of the story but…the fact still stands that while I quite like the show the characters don’t speak to me.
Anyway back to other thoughts. Katherine is pretty awesome, but then she always kind of was even in flashbacks. I can’t decide if I think they did the right thing by moving on to bigger baddies so quickly, but a) it’s probably leading somewhere awesome and b) it flowed well in the story. Also the episode where they took her on was seriously awesome (except for being part of my frustration at Elena’s more passive role in the story).
So, yeah, I think that covers most of my thoughts at the moment. We’ll see where I stand once I start watching episodes I haven’t been spoiled for but on a longer time gap.
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It's always weird if you see a show all at once versus seeing it one week at a time. For example I've never been able to transition to watching Dexter a week at a time and I wait for each season to finish before watching it all in a weekend.
I think some of the inconsistencies and missing character moments are much more obvious when watching straight through. The fast pace is much more rewarding on a weekly basis, I think, because you're never left saying "Well that episode didn't do much." Whereas even in my rewatches, I've found myself overwhelmed by constantly shifting plots and character dynamics.
I've found myself enjoying the episodes even more since I've been writing about them and discussing them with others in my lj. There's a lot of stuff to discuss in each episode and talking about it with other people helps to flesh out some of that off-screen or subtle character stuff.
Anyway, I'm glad you like the show, even if you're not in LOVE with it.
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I guess I can see that side of it too. Any episode taken individually there's no danger of being considered filler. But taken in fast mode it's too much at once with no room to breathe. I just think a story needs both stuff to happen but some moments where we just check in and see how that plot is effecting the characters. At least for me to be rally fannish about it.
But like I said we'll see what happens now that I'm on a different type of watching.
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I'm glad you like it (I think) even if you're mostly on the "it was mostly that I couldn't stop watching" phase. Did you watch 2x15 yet? I think in general I like where they've gone with Elena's martyrdom arc. Plus the great thing about TVD is that if you don't like an arc, you only have to wait five episodes and it will probably change.
Minor continuity rage, after Caroline was vamped, how did she get back into her house?
Omg there are so many continuity plotholes. I have such blinders on too that I don't even notice them until people point them out to me. But like... how did they get the tomb spell back up to put Katherine in there in s2?? WHERE DID ALL THESE SUPPOSEDLY EXTINCT WEREWOLVES COME FROM?
Also lol @ your comparisons to Robin Hood. That's not where my mind would have gone but I believe you.
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2x15 was pretty awesome and hopefully this means Elena is going to start fighting back. Martyrdom is one thing, surrendering is another..
Omg there are so many continuity plotholes.
There are of course ones that don't bug me as much, and probably way more that I don't notice anyway; but the Caroline was BUGS. A lot of them I can handwave past and make up a halfass theory until hopefully the show gives me one, but I just couldn't get passed this one.
I think maybe the "I don't know why I like it but I can't stop watching it" may actually be part of why it keeps ticking RH bits in my head. Also I like RH a lot more than I think you do so it's not just a comment on the cheese.
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2x15 was pretty awesome and hopefully this means Elena is going to start fighting back. Martyrdom is one thing, surrendering is another..
I liked the arc, though, and I understand it, and I think it's IC for Elena who really, at the end of the day, just wants to protect the people she cares about. And I like that Stefan being older was able to steer her away from it.
I think maybe the "I don't know why I like it but I can't stop watching it" may actually be part of why it keeps ticking RH bits in my head. Also I like RH a lot more than I think you do so it's not just a comment on the cheese.
HA! I sort of had that "This is so bad but I can't stop" feeling during the first half of S1 or so but at some point that turned to me legitimately loving the show on its own merits.
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I get where the martyr arc was coming from in character, just I didn't enjoy watching it. But everyone kept telling her she had to fight back so I figured it wasn't an arc that was going to go with that plan for very long.
It's not nearly as...bad...as RH (but again I LIKE RH) I just can't seem to stop making comparisons. I'm starting to think it may just be that I'm in the mood to rewatch RH and so subconsciously I started grouping them together.