It's not so much that I think the Doctor could only love/have a relationship with Rose, or even that he has, I just think there is something very different and special about the way he felt for her. Nor do I devalue that he certainly has strong feelings for a lot of other people that may or may not have romantic undertones. But I view Old School Doctor as...not asexual, but not interested in the big grand romance he found with Rose. He didn't want or need to feel that way about people, but after the Time War he did.
And then going forward, all those issues that impacted even his relationship with her (no matter all he let himself feel, the issues cropped up) are still there. He hasn't grown past them (Moffat's just taken over the writing), he's just added new ones on top of those old ones. Plus his feelings for *her* specifically are still there, making it really hard for me top see him romantically interested in someone else for a long time. I'm not denying that one day he could, just he needs time.
This is actually something I know I have different thoughts on than a lot of fandom, even Doctor/Rose shippers, but when people use that he's a Time Lord and eventually he'll have to move on I...don't agree exactly. I think he could given time yeah, but I think being a Time Lord is the reason I have a hard time seeing him doing it. All of his issues about relationships and the length of time they might last are there because of the Time Lord factor, humans might have some level of it but not to the level he does, especially now.
Humans on the other hand I see having an easier time letting go precisely because we live such short lives. Because we know even if we don't like to think about it, that our time, and the time of everyone around us, is limited. It's why I can ship Daniel/Rose even with them both being heartbroken over other loves because for them time *does* move on, in a way that for the Doctor it doesn't. I know it sounds backwards but it's the way I feel about the subject.
Now, honestly I don't know that slashers really have that much interest in real life gay rights. Some probably do, hence the PSA fic, but I always get the feeling it's really centered in fandom and they try and make it sound better by bringing up real life issues. Or people will try and twist preferring het ships around to mot supporting gay rights, which again, bwah?
Certainly not even all exclusive-slashers are like that I'm sure, but it makes me leery of slash fandom a lot of places. It gives the strange impression that only sometimes slashing characters, and then those that have a strong canon reason to isn't enough to be part of the club.
It's not that I don't like slash, either for story or porn, it's not that I don't wish there were more and better developed homosexual ships in the media, and it certainly isn't that I'm not anti-homosexual, it's that I personally identify more with het ships in fandom. And I hate being made to feel like I'm doing it wrong because of that because I know I'm not. Of course I know that just because I'm listing say my top ships of all time and all of them are het, in any given fandom my second or third favorite ship is often slash.
I know for most people it really is just a personal preference thing, but that's what this whole thing has been about; don't tell people they're doing fandom wrong just because they don't do it the way you do.
Re: cont.
It's not so much that I think the Doctor could only love/have a relationship with Rose, or even that he has, I just think there is something very different and special about the way he felt for her. Nor do I devalue that he certainly has strong feelings for a lot of other people that may or may not have romantic undertones. But I view Old School Doctor as...not asexual, but not interested in the big grand romance he found with Rose. He didn't want or need to feel that way about people, but after the Time War he did.
And then going forward, all those issues that impacted even his relationship with her (no matter all he let himself feel, the issues cropped up) are still there. He hasn't grown past them (Moffat's just taken over the writing), he's just added new ones on top of those old ones. Plus his feelings for *her* specifically are still there, making it really hard for me top see him romantically interested in someone else for a long time. I'm not denying that one day he could, just he needs time.
This is actually something I know I have different thoughts on than a lot of fandom, even Doctor/Rose shippers, but when people use that he's a Time Lord and eventually he'll have to move on I...don't agree exactly. I think he could given time yeah, but I think being a Time Lord is the reason I have a hard time seeing him doing it. All of his issues about relationships and the length of time they might last are there because of the Time Lord factor, humans might have some level of it but not to the level he does, especially now.
Humans on the other hand I see having an easier time letting go precisely because we live such short lives. Because we know even if we don't like to think about it, that our time, and the time of everyone around us, is limited. It's why I can ship Daniel/Rose even with them both being heartbroken over other loves because for them time *does* move on, in a way that for the Doctor it doesn't. I know it sounds backwards but it's the way I feel about the subject.
Now, honestly I don't know that slashers really have that much interest in real life gay rights. Some probably do, hence the PSA fic, but I always get the feeling it's really centered in fandom and they try and make it sound better by bringing up real life issues. Or people will try and twist preferring het ships around to mot supporting gay rights, which again, bwah?
Certainly not even all exclusive-slashers are like that I'm sure, but it makes me leery of slash fandom a lot of places. It gives the strange impression that only sometimes slashing characters, and then those that have a strong canon reason to isn't enough to be part of the club.
It's not that I don't like slash, either for story or porn, it's not that I don't wish there were more and better developed homosexual ships in the media, and it certainly isn't that I'm not anti-homosexual, it's that I personally identify more with het ships in fandom. And I hate being made to feel like I'm doing it wrong because of that because I know I'm not. Of course I know that just because I'm listing say my top ships of all time and all of them are het, in any given fandom my second or third favorite ship is often slash.
I know for most people it really is just a personal preference thing, but that's what this whole thing has been about; don't tell people they're doing fandom wrong just because they don't do it the way you do.